Islamist Mehsud; working for the CIA?

There are very few Islamists in Pakistan!

In the 2008 general election in Pakistan, “the parties linked, or at least sympathetic, to the Taliban and ‘al Qaeda’ saw their share of the votes slashed to about 3%”.

So, only 3% are wild Islamists.

(Islam at the Ballot Box – )

Remember that the CIA can offer no evidence that Osama is in Pakistan.

And, the UK government can offer no evidence in its latest ‘Pakistani terrorist plot’.

Reportedly, in Pakistan, the Islamists are secretly backed by the CIA.

The CIA appears to be using its Islamist friends to break up Pakistan.

Rememeber that in 1978, President Carter’s regime was training and building up the wild Islamists in Afghanistan.

The aim was to topple the government of Afghanistan, which was seen as being friendly with Russia.

Afghanistan’s heroin was important to the USA. Afghan poppy production tripled between 1979 and 82; and there are now drug lords in the government of President Hamid Karzai. (Afghanistan: U.S. Escalates the Illegal Drug Industry)

Who will control the oil and heroin?

Ahmed Quraishi, on 9 April 2009, at, tells us:

Cut CIA’s Footprint In Pakistan

Among the points made:

1. Many in Pakistan believe the terror in Pakistan is linked to the CIA.

2. In July 2008, Pakistan’s military gave CIA and U.S. commanders evidence showing that the US government was indirectly protecting anti-Pakistan terrorists.

3. The so called Islamist Abdullah Mehsud (who may be linked to the CIA) was used to attack Chinese interests in Pakistan.

Until now CIA drones have never targeted Abdullah or Baitullah Mehsud or any other militia that is committed to attacking Pakistan.

4. The Indian and Afghan intelligence services are aiding terrorism inside Pakistan.

5. In 2002, the US was allowed to set bases in Balochistan, in Pakistan.

The CIA was allowed to recruit Pakistanis in the tribal belt in Pakistan.

These two areas are now the most disturbed parts of Pakistan.

6. The US government is hoping to make it impossible for China ‘to pursue trade and energy corridors through Pakistan’.

Simple minded patsies?

And what about Kasab and the Mumbai Attacks?

Is Kasab a poorly educated patsy?

In late 1998, black-clad ninjas murdered hundreds of innocent people in East Java, in Indonesia.

Some of the victims were mentally handicapped youths, easy targets.

(Murder in Java: Psychological warfare and the New York Times)

Bloody decapitated heads were paraded around the streets.

Reportedly, the killings were part of a psychological terror campaign ( like that waged in 1965 by the US-advised Indonesian Army, when at least 500,000 civilians were killed.)

In 1998, as in ’65, there was the distribution of death lists to terrify the public, the arrival of assassins in trucks, mutilation of corpses and display of body parts in public places.

[Sounds eerily similar to this report on the campaign of slaughter that has been unleashed upon the people of Parichinar, Pakistan:

“An all-out attack against the Shias of Parachinar has been underway for a long time now; even Sunni locals seen to be “friendly” towards Shias have not been spared in this maelstrom of killing. Gruesome images of beheaded and mutilated bodies, with arms and legs chopped off from corpses, have surfaced on the Internet since the outbreak of violence…orders were given out by the Taliban government for the dead to be left unburied.]

Some observers believed that a faction of the US-trained army was fomenting terror to justify a military crackdown.

Army members were arrested by local authorities for the killings, and then mysteriously released.

Pro-democracy activists in Jakarta pointed out that’Ninja’ is the term popularly used to designate the Army Special Forces (Kopassus) in disguise.

Are the security services using mentally backward people for false flag operations?

1. Nicky Reilly, who was involved in the nail bomb explosions in Exeter, England, in May 2008, was under surveillance by the Security Services. ( Face of the ‘nail bomber’: Police were tailing Muslim convert …) . Was he being used by them?

2. “GENTLE giant Nicky Reilly may have been ‘brainwashed’ into becoming a would-be suicide bomber… police say.

“The mentally ill 22-year-old was arrested on Thursday after a homemade nail bomb blew up in his face in a busy restaurant. ( Mentally ill man ‘brainwashed’ into suicide bomb bid, police say)

“Mr Reilly’s stepfather, Philip Dinner, is a convicted heroin dealer and his younger brother, Luke, 20, is serving a six-year prison sentence for kicking a man unconscious in a violent robbery.” (Neighbours tell of Nicky Reilly’s troubled past )

“One neighbour, Daniel Turner, 20, said… ‘He is mentally ill and probably has the mental age of a 10 year old’…

“The chairman of the local Islamic Centre, Syed Rahman, said Mr Reilly may have prayed at the mosque but denied any knowledge of him. ‘Certainly no one who attends our mosque has anything to do with extremism,’ he said. ‘This guy may have come to us, but we do not know him and we do not recognise him.'” (Exeter bombing suspect was ‘brainwashed’, friends insist)

3. As mentioned above, it has been alleged that the American trained Indonesian military used mentally backward youths in their terror plots.

In 1998, elements of the Indonesian military wanted to topple Indonesia’s President Wahid.

Allegedly, in East Java, members of the military dressed up as Ninjas.

Allegedly the military then dumped mental patients in villages.

When the village vigilantes arrived, they thought the mentally backward youths were Ninjas and chopped their heads off.

Indonesia was destabilised.

There is a suspicion that the security services recruit their patsies from among the weakest members in society: people with mental problems, people who are petty criminals, people who can be easily brainwashed. (aangirfan: TERROR IN INDONESIA : THE CIA CONNECTION )

4. The mentally disturbed Marinus Van der Lubbe was accused by the Nazis of causing the Reichstag Fire. Many believe that he was manipulated by the Gestapo.

Historians Bahar and Kugel used evidence from Gestapo archives to argue that the fire was almost certainly started by the Nazis. They say that a commando group of at least three, and at most ten SA men led by Hans Georg Gewehr set the fire using self-lighting incendiaries, and that Van der Lubbe was brought to the scene later.[13]

5.Retarded Prisoner Was Informant For London Terror Raid’, according to the London Mirror, June 18 2006

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A MAN with an IQ of just 69 is believed to be the trigger behind the bungled terror raid in Forest Gate, East London.

Ex-waiter Mohammed Abu Bakr Mansha, 22, was a childhood pal of the innocent two brothers arrested in the dawn swoop by police two weeks ago.

In January he was jailed for six years for terror offences – and even described in court as an “utter incompetent”. Soon afterwards, friends of brothers Abul Kahar, 23, and Abul Koyair, 20, visited him at top-security Belmarsh prison, in South-East London.

And, the Sunday Mirror has learned, that meeting sparked a surveillance operation on the men by the security services. According to a friend of the brothers, they laughed at constantly being followed. Our source said: “It was so obvious we treated it as a joke.”

Then new information came through, said to include detailed drawings of a suicide vest.

That led to Operation Volga – the botched police operation to arrest the brothers, which led to Kahar being shot. After seven days in custody they were released without charge amid claims of incompetence and brutality.

Friends of the men believe dim Mansha was the trigger for the extraordinary operation.

Mansha’s lawyer Sara O’Keefe revealed how her client was moved just before the raid from category ‘A’ Belmarsh to a softer category ‘B’ jail. She did not know why he got the favourable treatment, or whether he unwittingly helped MI5. Told that the brothers knew they were being followed she said: “That sounds about right.”

Mansha – serving six years for possessing an old address of a British Army war hero, which police suspected was part of a terror plot – is appealing against his sentence. His trial revealed him to be educationally subnormal with an IQ of 69 – compared to the average of 100.

In the US that would make his court evidence unreliable.

If Mansha is confirmed as the trigger for the raid, it will be hugely humiliating for the security services in their battle against terror.

Police and intelligence officials claim the information was from a reliable single source who knew the brothers and whom the security services had dealt with before.

But our probe suggests that if Mansha was at the centre of the investigation, the intelligence is highly suspect and deeply embarrassing for MI5. Vajahat Sharif, lawyer for one brother, slammed the “scattergun” approach, saying it would lead to police targeting more innocent people. He said: “Where does this stop? What about Mansha’s friends, family or neighbours? They know him, so presumably they’re terrorists.”

A friend of the brothers said they’d grown up with Mansha. He said: “We used to play in the street. Abu was strange. He’d suddenly lose it. Once while playing street football, he got upset as no one passed to him. He took out a gun and went pop, pop, pop.”

He added: “Once I saw him pee in the eye of a man lying on the floor, for fun. I’ve seen him do all sorts, bad things, because he’s a nutter – but he’s no al-Qaeda bomber. He needs help, not banging up. A few guys visited him in jail. I didn’t go as I didn’t like him, but suddenly Kahar and Koyair were being followed. It was so obvious we all treated it like a joke. Maybe if I’d gone too they’d have raided my house and shot me. It’s a f***ing outrage.”

On June 2 at 4am 250 officers, including forensic and chemicals experts, waited at the terraced home of their parents Abul Kalam and Alif Jan. Bursting through a window, 50 cops met Kahar and Koyair on the stairs. Kahar was shot in the shoulder. They were held for seven days as police dug the garden and drilled holes into walls seeking a chemical device.

A week later police issued a grudging apology, outraging locals. The brothers are suing for distress, wrongful imprisonment and damage to their house. But a pal said: “They don’t blame Abu, he’s an old friend. But he’s capable of saying and doing anything. If he did say anything it would be madness if the police took him seriously.”

INTERVIEW: Frontier wisdom, By Syed Saleem Shahzad

Governor NWFP Owais Ahmed Ghani


Frontier wisdom

By Syed Saleem Shahzad

PESHAWAR – A year ago, the United States brokered a deal in Pakistan between then-Pakistani president General Pervez Musharraf and opposition parties to bring Pakistan back onto the path of real democracy, at the same time returning the military to the “war on terror” front. The goal was to empower the political parties to defeat domestic militancy through consensus and broad-based government, with a civilian president.

This happened to some extent following elections in February 2008 and the subsequent formation of a civilian administration under President Asif Ali Zardari.

However, on the first anniversary of those polls, Pakistan has changed horses in midstream by striking deals with militants and

stopping all military operations against militants. In other words, Pakistan is refusing to fight the American war in the region, as was the grand plan.

On the front line
Pashtun-dominated North-West Frontier Province (NWFP), although the smallest of the four provinces of Pakistan, is center-stage in the struggle against militancy as it borders Afghanistan to the north and the troubled tribal areas to its west.

The man who presides over the province, sitting in Governor’s House in the capital Peshawar, is Owais Ahmad Ghani, previously a successful governor of southwestern Balochistan province and a former trusted lieutenant of Musharraf. He took over in January 2008 after four-and-a-half years in his previous position.

Governor’s House reflects some of the rich history of the Pashtuns; its walls have murals of Alexander the Great’s army in battle as some Pashtuns believe they are descendents of the leader’s Greeks. There is also Koranic calligraphy showing their Muslim legacy.

With his background and given his present position, Ghani is intimately informed of the intricacies of Pakistan’s evolving policy with regard to militants. In an extensive interview with Asia Times Online, he says that the move towards peace deals with militants was not the result of any blackmail or pressure from the side of militants.

Rather, it grew from the realization that the seven-year-long strategy of military operations only aggravated the situation. Now, with peace deals, Pakistan is returning to the pre-1979 setup when, under the aegis of the state, tribes decided their terms of peace through their riwaj (customary laws).

Ghani admits that the situation can at best only be contained as long as foreign troops remain in Afghanistan. The Taliban and other groups consider this a reason for jihad, and Pakistan territory is used to fuel this cause. Probably the most important peace deal in NWFP is the one concluded in February with militants in the Swat area after two years of fighting.

Asia Times Online: There is a perception of you that you initiate political negotiations, and then follow with military operations. That’s what you did when you were governor of Balochistan, and some say that is why you were brought to NWFP.

Owais Ahmad Ghani: This is a perception that you have from the outside. But let me explain to you in detail. The situation we face has always revolved around this question: Is this a law-and-order issue, or is it an insurgency?

This is the first question I raised when I came here [NWFP]. Law and order is not a protracted activity. It is temporary and there are some immediate issues. It can be criminal issues and it can also be issues of public agitation. For example, against [power] loadshedding, against inflation or political issues.

After some debate we came to the conclusion that this is an insurgency in which there is an attempt to dislodge the state of Pakistan and create space for another state. So we started from this premise. I can today state with a degree of confidence that insurgency has now been downgraded to militancy. But certainly last year in January and February our conclusion was that we were facing an insurgency, and we designed a strategy accordingly.

Now in such a situation there are two concurring battles being fought. One is the battle of ideas. The other is the battle of arms. The battle of ideas is always a lead battle and the battle of arms is always subservient to the battle of ideas. Please understand this.

Here [NWFP] I found a very strange situation in which the battle of arms had been joined, but there was no battle of ideas. The battle of ideas is a political approach. It is the same approach which I have been telling the Americans to adopt in Afghanistan. In 2003-04, I predicted to various American personalities, like ambassadors Ryan Crocker, Nancy Powell, their senators etc, that they were going to fail in Afghanistan because there was an over-emphasis on a military strategy, and I did not see any robust parallel political strategy at work.

I said [to the Americans] that what you are doing is that you are trying to find a military solution to an issue which is essentially political in nature. So that is the mistake happening there that I felt was also happening here [in Pakistan]. That’s why the Americans have fought in Afghanistan for six or seven years, and I keep on asking them whether they have improved law and order – no. Has security improved? No. Has political stability been achieved? No. Has socio-economic development taken off? No. So obviously they were doing something wrong. We need to step back and review as exactly the same questions can be asked of Pakistan.

For three or four years, we [Pakistan] have been fighting in the tribal areas. Have we reduced violence? Have we brought in political stability? Have we brought in security and law and order? Is social economic development taking place? No … no …. no. So let’s step back and let’s review. Where are we going wrong? And according to our analysis – you need to understand this analysis, only then will you be able to understand the strategy – that it is not 9/11, it is 1979, which was the trigger which brought instability to this region.

Before the 1979 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, there was a two-power environment in the tribal areas. One was the tribes themselves, the other one was the government of Pakistan. The entire administrative system and the law-enforcement system were designed according to this two-power environment.

[In the Pakistani tribal areas] you had the maliks [tribal chiefs], you had the political administration, which I will explain later. However, post the 1979 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, we were supported by the West and the United States and we used the tribal areas … Federally Administered Tribal Areas [FATA] … as the launching pad for the Afghan jihad against the Soviet army.

Whatever happened after that is the fallout of an unintended consequence of that conflict. Those jihadi organizations morphed into militant organizations [at the end of the Afghan jihad in 1989] and therefore a third power emerged and the old equilibrium was disturbed.

Our administrative systems and law-enforcing agencies were not designed to cope with this three-power environment. A steady decline was there, but it was the shock of 9/11 which brought out the total inadequacy and the weakness of the system. And therefore as a temporary measure to bring about some control and stability, the army had to be inducted.

But the main challenge is to reform our administrative and law-enforcing systems to cater for this new environment, which is going to remain for some time. This is our reading because everything is dependent on Afghanistan. If a certain degree of normalcy returns to Afghanistan, normalcy according to Afghan standards, only then can the issues the tribal areas and our provinces and Pakistan face subside.

To correct the situation and to bring about stability and control, we fell back on old traditional systems. We had the original power-based tribes, but they had become weakened. Why? For three or four reasons. The militant organizations, they are highly organized because of their background, they are battle-hardened and heavily armed and very well funded. And very importantly, while tribal influence is limited to its own area, its own people, the militant organizations have cross-tribal linkages, cross-border linkages, international linkages. And while tribes are bound by their tribal traditions and customary laws [riwaj], the militant organizations are not. So they have out-gunned, out-funded and out-organized the tribal malik and his tribe, and that’s why that system could not respond.

So our strategy was very simple, we needed to prop up the tribes because the real strength is the people. No government, whether a civilian government or a military government, can really function or succeed until it has brought public support behind it … sentiment behind it.

For us to prop up the tribal system again, this could only be done by weakening the militants, militarily, so that at a certain point we could make the tribes strong enough. This is the basic approach – the state of Pakistan owes its first loyalty to its own citizens, and its own citizens are the tribes.

There were previous agreements, previous to my tenure, but they were flawed. I was sitting in Quetta [as governor of Balochistan] and I said these were flawed and could not succeed because they were between the military and the militants [for example, one signed in September 2006]. The agreements should have been between the government of Pakistan and the tribes.

Our approach has been that it is the government of Pakistan dealing with the tribes and making agreements with the tribes. For example, we have conducted only one written agreement, and that is in North Waziristan [tribal area]. There is no other agreement in my period [as governor of NWFP]. On February 17, 2008, we signed an agreement in North Waziristan. Over 380 tribal maliks and tribal elders signed that agreement.

ATol: Do the tribal elders matter?

OAG: They do. Obviously, we understand that 20-25 of those tribal leaders are very closely aligned with militant elements. I would not call them the Taliban because that has a different connotation altogether. They were with these militants because they were in that society. But we are talking to them on the basis of them being tribal leaders, and they have a certain relationship. Let me explain that relationship.

The tribesmen of FATA are fully fledged Pakistani citizens. They are entitled to a passport, a national ID card, they can join the civil services, the armed forces – they are there from soldier to general. And very importantly, they can own, purchase and manage property anywhere in Pakistan.

However, due to historical reasons, a different politico-administrative system evolved from the old British Empire policy, creating buffers between the advancing Russian imperial army, then as Afghanistan as a buffer with the Russian empire, then the tribal areas as a buffer between the Indian empire and Afghanistan, and the frontier regions as a buffer between the tribal areas and settled districts.

So that created a system of buffers. Each has a slightly different

administrative system. In this there was a political agent whose administrative authority was limited to protected areas, that is, roads and government buildings, and no more. In the rest of the [tribal] areas there are customary laws – riwaj. The political agent is also bound by the riwaj when he operates in those areas, that is why he is called a political agent, he is not an administrative officer. He has to deal with the tribes politically.

Secondly, this is simplified, there is no thana [police station] no katchari [lower courts] no police etc. You have tribal laws, the riwaj, the jirga system [tribal councils]. There are major concessions from taxation, but all this is not free, sir.

In return for all these concessions, and these are collective concessions from which the tribes collectively benefit, there is a collective responsibility, a trade-off that every tribe is responsible for the security of its own respective areas, which is called Apni Mitti ki Zamdari [responsibility for one’s own land].

This entails that roads in those areas should be open, the political administration in that area should carry on its traditional responsibilities without any hindrance. And the traditional law-enforcing agencies, like the Frontier Corps, Khasadars, carry on their traditional activities unhindered. It is most important that a tribe will not allow the use of its territory as a sanctuary for any criminal and anti-state elements to act against the interests of Pakistan … which are diluted now.

So, we talked to the tribes and said, “Look, you have this concession and this is your collective responsibility. Now, if you want to enjoy these concessions, come up with your collective responsibility that you cannot allow your territory to be used as sanctuary for anti-state elements for criminals as is happening now.”

We tell them that we understand they have problems and that they are weak, but the state of Pakistan is there to help them. This was the basis of our agreements with them.

Now, if there is a violation of the agreement, then there are the FCR [Frontier Crime Regulations], which are generally called draconian laws or black laws. These provide a system of redress, and it is a graduated response system.

First, say there is a violation by a tribe or an individual in that tribe, the first step is to call a jirga of the tribal elders and give them a reasonable period of time [to rectify the problem].

If it does not happen, then you can put pressure, through penalties, stoppage of allowances etc. If that pressure does not work, then you can start with a system of risks, where you start with the near family of the individual and slowly move towards the tribe. This is how it happens, to put more pressure, you arrest them under the FCR. But because it is a collective responsibility, the response is also collective and if it does not work then the FCR allows for any economic blockade, you can block the roads, you can seal their shops, you can freeze their accounts.

If nothing works, then military punitive action can be taken.

If you examine the FCR, it is an adaptation of tribal culture because if there is a dispute between two tribes or two individuals, what would they do? First they have a jirga to talk it out. If it does not work, they block the roads, and if that does not work, they catch each other persons … if that does not work, they form a lashkar [militia] and they fight.

That is why when last year on the floor of parliament the prime minister announced the intention to repeal the FCR there was an immediate major reaction – two reactions. The first was that it was a black law, that it was draconian, so get rid of it. Very good. That reaction came from non-tribal Pashtuns who were either living in the [cosmopolitan centers of] Karachi, Lahore, Peshawar or Islamabad, Dera Ismail Khan, but not in the tribal areas.

From inside the tribal areas there was a different reaction. They said, “Look, this is our law and we understand it is according to our custom and traditions, don’t abolish it. If you want, maybe make small reforms, but if you are really bent on removing it, then we don’t want that.” This is what they said to me: “Governor sahib. Give us the sharia [Islamic laws].” If you remember, it was all over the newspapers that there was the demand for sharia by the evening [after the prime minister announced his intentions]. It was because the FCR are very similar, it is basically an adaptation and modification of tribal culture, that is why they have an acceptability there.

So our response to the problem was three-pronged. One was to deal with the tribal people on the basis of their own traditions. Two was to reconstruct and restrengthen the administrative system according to the FCR and the old tribal system. We talked to these people [and said], “Look, you have to get your lives in order, this is not on and you are suffering, we are also suffering. If your people are going and crossing into Afghanistan, you are creating problems for Pakistan, this has to stop. We understand you are weak and we will help you, but you get your act in order.” When they did not get their act in order we tried jirgas and everything, and when they did not work, eventually it came to military punitive action.

North Waziristan, yes there are problems. However, since February [2008], because of this agreement, it has been quiet. But there are [still] problems, we understand this, but we are working through the system now to slowly, slowly, solve them. Otherwise, it is a conflict zone, the administration is out and everybody is out. This is what I told our allies, that in a conflict zone there is nothing you can do, it will continue to radicalize society. You have to stop the fighting and let normal economic and social activities take place. You have to let the administration go back in there so that you can create space and restrict the space for militants, otherwise the entire space is a conflict zone and is available to the militants, as it is available to our forces also.

Now there is another thing which people don’t understand. Each agency [tribal area] has its own peculiar character and its own peculiar conditions, its tribal balances and each has to work separately. I will give you an example. In South Waziristan, we have the Ahmadzai wazirs [tribe] who are traditionally a quarter [of the population] and we have the Mehsud [tribe] who are three-quarters. But the Mehsud does not have borders with Afghanistan and they have to travel to each other’s territory for their normal activities, and that decides the tribal balance and the tribal politics. However, after 1979 there was a migration of the Ahmadzai wazir from Afghanistan into this area and in that old population the demographic balance was disturbed. So a new set of conditions has come in.

In Kurram Agency there is a Shi’ite and Sunni thing and in addition there is a third outside element – militants, which complicates the situation. So each requires a different approach. We have done it successfully in Bajaur [Agency] and successfully in Mohmand [Agency]. If militants surrender and stop fighting, the civilians, for example in Mohmand Agency, the Tarakzai tribe, they said they will take responsibility for this person [militant] for his good conduct.

We have done this in the major parts of Khyber Agency, we are doing it in Dara and we have the same agreements now in North Waziristan, in South Waziristan, in the Wazir area, and we have some sort of stability.

[However,] in the Mehsud area [in South Waziristan] we took action last year, we talked, but when it did not happen [peace] and an attack came from the other side, we started military actions. But we did it in the traditional way, that whenever we used to bomb an area we would give notice for women, children, old men and non-combatants to get out. There was an immediate exodus of 170,000 and we were ill-prepared for that but we quickly vacated schools for them, erected tents etc and put them up while we took action. As soon as the operation was over, they went back.

The same happened in Bajaur Agency before we started action, we told the tribal chiefs that action was going to happen and they should vacate the area and that is why 300,000 people went out, 40,000-50,000 in camps. The rest stayed with families and friends in different areas. Now [since the operation is over] they are in the process of going back.

ATol: You mentioned the agreement in North Waziristan. It resulted in peace undoubtedly, but immediately after the peace agreement the militants formed a shura, a shura of mujahideen

OAG: The Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan [TTP] …?

ATol: No, I am talking about the shura of mujahideen.

OAG: No, sir. We had the TTP. The shura of mujahideen has come now [not immediately after the agreement], just a month or two ago.

ATol: Anyway, they have turned their guns towards Afghanistan. Peace came here in Pakistan, but at the cost of more insurgency in Afghanistan.

OAG: The world is responsible for Afghanistan, all the troubles we face here are from Afghanistan, the roots of the problems are in Afghanistan, not in Pakistan. We have been battling the fallout from Afghanistan and I say it is not Pakistan’s responsibility. Nobody should blame Pakistan because, number one, we never invited the Soviet army into Afghanistan. It was the Afghans themselves. We never brought international terrorists into Afghanistan. It was not our ISI [Inter-Services Intelligence] or anybody, it was international intelligence agencies, over and above the objections of the ISI.

There was a basic agreement that only Pakistani intelligence would deal with the [Afghan mujahideen groups in the 1980s] and jihadi organizations and everybody in Europe and the US supported this. But they started their own operations and they were warned that they would not be able to control these people. And that is exactly what happened. But Pakistan was not responsible for that

prove that the government never used power first. Every time we conducted military operations, it was as retaliation. Whether it is the tribal areas, Swat, or elsewhere, we only responded to violence committed by the militants.

ATol: You have presented an account from your side, including your achievements. Now I present some ground realities. Soon after your peace overtures, Hakeemullah Mehsud [a Taliban leader in Orakzai Agency] levied a jazia [a tax on non-Muslims] on 50 Sikh families and collected 15 million rupees.

OAG: [Laughing] A plain case of abduction for ransom. This is not

the only case, they collected this so-called jazia even from Muslims.

ATol: Over 70% of the Shi’ite population of Dera Ismail Khan [a city in NWFP near South Waziristan] has moved to the district of Bakhar due to target killings. This is happening in your province … even after peace deals.

OAG: It has nothing to do with the peace agreement. Shi’ite-Sunni conflict is old. It has been aggravated from time to time. Even before 9/11, it was there. The Lashkar-e-Jhangvi [an anti-Shi’ite underground militant group] started from southern Punjab. I have warned that these organizations, like the Sepah-e-Sahaba [an anti-Shi’ite political movement] are poison. It is a great challenge for the entire Muslim ummah [community] to reconcile between these two Muslim sects.

ATol: Attacks on NATO supply lines have increased drastically. At present, 66 Humvees, according to my information, are in the possession of Pakistani militants and they are moving in those vehicles in the tribal areas. Your government failed to provide protection to NATO convoys passing through your province on the way to Afghanistan.

OAG: Only two Humvees. I know precisely. One of the two was destroyed by us. One is there [in the possession of militants].

ATol: You failed to get a kidnapped Iranian diplomat released. This is despite that you are aware of the location of his captivity.

OAG: The Iranian diplomat is not alone. There is an Afghan diplomat, there is Khadija Abdul Qahar [a Canadian journalist and a Muslim convert], and a Polish engineer unfortunately was killed. Then there was an attack on an American who was killed [in Peshawar]. This is a very difficult period. This area is heavily destabilized because of the superpowers’ regional interests. If you think that somebody could clean up this mess in seconds. No, sir.

I told you earlier that I am not really concerned why incidents are happening, they will continue to happen because of the circumstances. We have to confront the situation gradually. This is a long-term struggle, and it does not mean this agreement is wrong. The issue is whether we are moving forward or not. Yes, sir, we are moving forward. Last year in March and April, people were speculating on the fall of Peshawar. By the grace of God, leave Peshawar apart. Areas like Warsak, Mithni, Bajaur and Mohmand, Jamrud, Bara, Dara Adamkhail, Hangu, Doaba, those were no-go areas, nevertheless, incidents will happen.

ATol: Do you support some militants and condemn others?

OAG: We do not support a single militant.

ATol: You praised Taliban leader Mullah Omar in an interview with a British newspaper. You praised mujahid Gulbuddin Hekmatyar.

OAG: You mean Afghan Mullah Omar? Where have I praised him?

ATol: You mentioned them as friends and that there was no threat to Pakistan from these people.

OAG: I said that they were not interested in jihad in Pakistan. The focus of their jihad is in Afghanistan, which is a fact. Look, you have to take in the viewpoints of everybody, including the militants. The adversary is saying that there is a non-Muslim occupation army in my home. They say that when the Soviets invaded, it was jihad, they were also non-Muslims, so it was a jihad. If this is not a jihad [now], then it was also not a jihad [against the Soviets].

They say that it is a jihad for them and they call it a war of liberation against the foreign occupation army. Their focus is not Pakistan at all. Does it mean that we are supporting them? No, sir. It only means that their focus is Afghanistan and not Pakistan. I had only said that this Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan [TTP] has a strange approach on jihad in that their entire focus is Pakistan – they don’t fire a single bullet on Afghanistan. As a Muslim, I cannot comprehend their [TTPs] concept of jihad.

ATol: You have called Pakistani militants criminals. You have accused them of having nothing to do with religion, that they don’t even offer prayers.

OAG: You took it wrong. They [militants] have developed a concept under which their leader’s [ameer’s] religious decrees override entire old Muslim schools of jurisprudence. Whatever their ameer declares is considered correct. If he declares that you are in a state of war and if you skip prayers, never mind. So I mentioned instances. I was only reinforcing a point that they have a strange system because we have old schools of jurisprudence that all Muslims follow, like Hanafi, Shafai, Malaki, Hanbali and others. But they have developed a concept that the existing religious decrees of an ameer override everything. I was explaining that.

ATol: We are running out of time …

OAG: In Pashtu it is said “Don’t do shaf shaf … called shaftalu [don’t say half words]. The time has gone to cover up things. We must speak openly about issues. Maybe my viewpoint will be wrong. But here I have a responsibility and assignment and this is how I look at things and this is how I intend to fulfill them.

I told the Americans, Petraeus and Boucher were sitting here. I asked, “Gentlemen, for seven years you have been fighting, what is your result?” We have been fighting. What is our result? So we have had to step back and review our strategy and we have come to the conclusion that we will proceed like this.

However, if you have differences with my strategy, then you had better have a better idea to put on the table. If you don’t have a better idea, then don’t tell me to go back to the old strategy because that patently did not work. Therefore, let me try this, if it does not work, we will come back and discuss it. I told them our strategy was working and we are moving forward. We have turned the tide and it will take some time. I asked them what they have done in Afghanistan. I told them that they had admitted that 70% of Afghanistan is out of government control. That’s why I told them that al-Qaeda etc does not need Pakistan and FATA, they have plenty of space in Afghanistan to have their bases, their training – whatever is happening is happening over there.

ATol: There is a perception that US Predator drone attacks inside Pakistan have been a success. What is your opinion?

OAG: I consider this as totally irrelevant. This debate is irrelevant. The basic principle is the sovereignty of Pakistan. Any action that takes place inside Pakistan will be by Pakistan itself, that is the foundational principle. Therefore, I consider this debate as irrelevant and irrational.

Syed Saleem Shahzad is Asia Times Online’s Pakistan Bureau Chief. He can be reached at

Algeria Claims Discovery of “al Qaida” Training Camps in Israel


According to sources well informed on the case and the activities of El Qaeda, Israel would have created about a year, training camps on its territory for elements from Arab countries.

  • The military training and intelligence are provided in preparation for possible terrorist operations against the interests of foreign countries in the Arab countries who are regarded by Israel as a threat to its security and its strategic interests, including the Maghreb Arab.

    According to our sources, the camps include Arabs from Algeria, Morocco and Yemen who came in, with false passports, from Europe and carrying Jewish names. These were recruited by the Mossad in the European capitals to activate within the ‘El Qaeda’ organization after being selected by the intelligence services in Europe. These people are generally wanted for belonging to terrorist groups.

    The secret training camps have relations with the sleeping cells of El Qaida in Europe, where their elements are recruited for possible terrorist operations in Arab countries in coordination with the branches of the organization including the armed terrorist groups of the Sahara. This proves what Ennahar had previously published on the military attaché at the Israeli embassy in Mauritania, who had prepared a secret report on security activities of armed men in the Sahara regions. The latter maintained secret relations with the rebel movements in Mali and Niger.

    The Mossad had relations with the branches of El Qaeda and the operations committed against foreign interests, mainly American, and in connection with the events in Iraq and the Middle East.

    According to these sources, the Mossad might even try to use Algerian Harraga in Italy and recruit them in these training camps across the logistics network of seafarers on the axis Sardinia Naples in search of elements to send secretly in Israel, for the purpose of committing operations against foreign interests during the summer; operations to be awarded to El Qaeda.

    This new stage in the activities of the El Qaeda organization is the subject of the discourse of El Dhawahiri in an attempt to revive the various branches after the stranglehold exercised on the organization by the European intelligence and painful strikes made by the security services and the army in particular in the Arab Maghreb and in Algeria.

    Ennahar / Mohamed Ben Kemoukh

“Al Qaida” in Algeria Fizzling Out

Surrender rather than suicide … The choice of the terrorists

In the last video of the ‘El Qaeda in Islamic Maghreb,’ under the command of Abou Mosaâb Abdelouadoud, alias Abdelmalek Droukdal, entitled (Ochak El Hour) “The lovers of Paradise women” in its second edition, this demonstrates the defeat of the terrorist organization at the level of recruitment.

The surrender of many terrorist leaders, who previously attracted new recruits into the organization, has caused an earthquake within ‘El Qaeda cells.’ new recruits refuse carry out suicide operations or move from one region to another due to the tightening of the noose around the areas where armed groups of El Qaeda live. The role played by repentant terrorists, by providing information to security services, permitted to break the ranks of the terrorist organisation.

Moreover, terrorists wanting to lay down their arms and repent, plays a role in informing the security services of any terrorist plan or attempt to attack by providing the date and place. The latter, convinced of their mistake by joining terrorist groups, but also convinced by the fetwas prohibiting the shedding of Algerian blood.

Security experts see that ‘El Qaeda in Islamic Maghreb’ is facing, in recent months, huge difficulties in carrying out terrorist operations because of the refusal of those who were supporters of ‘El Qaida organization’ which lives its last hours.

The organization has resorted to its archives in order to revive the memory and make them feel that it remembers its ancient criminals. The organization in its new video of an hour and a half, showed the old suicide bombers and their speeches before committing suicide operations. It was apparent that many of these were almost unconscious, which proves that they were drugged before the execution of the suicide operations, especially that most of them found difficulties to read their speeches, although they had been written on a sheet.

According to experts of the security file, the purpose of broadcasting of this movie is mostly to remember the terrorist organization and its crimes against civilians in Algeria after an absence following the debacle in which living residues of its elements. On the other hand, the organization wants to attract supporters in order to recruit them into its ranks by showing them images of suicide bombers committing suicide operations, claiming that they did them for the organization. The reality is that the organization has exploited them to kill innocent civilians.

The organization by propagating this video, demonstrates the failure of its criminal objectives after the Ulemas (Scholars), through their fetwas, have banned such acts they see as contrary to religion and they fall into the category of ‘El-Khawaridj.’

After the suicide operation made with a belt of explosives, Droukdal, and after the refusal of his elements, the majority of which surrendered to the security services, did not hesitate to use children of about 14 whom he wants to send to hell by making them human bombs.

Ennahar / Dalila B.

Sri Lanka, Mossad, the CIA, drugs and arms dealers.

Sri Lanka, Mossad, the CIA, drugs and arms dealers.,,2089-1734217,00.html

Sri Lankan foreign minister Lakshman Kadirgamar, a Tamil Christian, was bringing peace to Sri Lanka.

This was bad news for the arms dealers.

On 12 August 2005, Lakshman Kadirgamar was shot dead as he climbed out of the swimming pool at his luxury home.

SP Thamilselvan, leader of the Tamil Tigers’ political wing, denied that the Tigers were involved. He suggested that elements of the majority Sinhalese might be responsible. “We know there are sections within the Sri Lankan armed forces operating with a hidden agenda to sabotage the ceasefire,” he said.

Arms dealers? Sri Lanka’s arms dealers, ‘a shadowy bunch of politicians, servicemen, bureaucrats and their relatives and friends, who conclude multi-million-dollar deals nearly every day pocketing hefty commissions’ are the beneficiaries of trouble in Sri lanka.


According to Larouche:

“In the early 1970s, the LTTE (Tamil Tigers) began establishing training camps and secret arms caches under the cover of a chain of Refugee and Rehabilitation Farms of the Gandhian Society.

“Funds for the farms came from Oxfam (Oxford Famine Relief), one of the most powerful and secretive British intelligence organizations acting under non-governmental organization cover…

John Glover, a British feature writer, wrote to the Western Mail in Wales about the ongoing and future training programs for Tamil youth by British mercenaries.

“A band of mercenary soldiers recruited in South Wales is training a Tamil army to fight for a separate state in Sri Lanka. About 20 mercenaries were signed up after a meeting in Cardiff and have spent the last two months in southern India preparing a secret army to fight the majority Sinhalas, in the cause of a separate Tamil state in Sri Lanka,” he said…

According to accounts by retired officials of the Israeli secret service, the Mossad, the Israelis were simultaneously training the Sri Lanka Army and the Tigers, and providing arms to each.

“Victor Ostrovsky, author of By Way of Deception, told Indian Abroad news service in 1991 that the Tigers were trained in Israel in 1985. “These groups kept coming and going. It was part of our routine job to take them to training camps and make sure that they were getting training worth what they paid for, not more and not less.” The groups paid in cash.

“Ostrovsky said that the arrangement for the training was made by the Mossad liaison in India, who lived there under a British passport.

“A December 1983 Sunday Mail article reported that the Mossad was arming and training the Tigers, as well as the Sri Lankan Armed Forces.

The British Special Air Services (SAS) firm Keenie Meenie Services, was simultaneously training the Sri Lankan Army and the LTTE…

The LTTE is reported to be involved in trafficking heroin…

“According to intelligence reports, most of the arms used by the LTTE are purchased from Singapore, India, Afghanistan, and the Mideast.

“In 1987, the Hindustan Times reported that large quantities of arms with Pakistani and Israeli markings were seized by the Indian Peacekeeping Force in Jaffna from the LTTE.

In 1989, according to a Sri Lankan government secretary, the LTTE was receiving armaments directly from the Sri Lankan government of President Ranasinghe Premadasa, who wanted to force the expulsion of the Indian Peacekeeping Force from Sri Lanka, and who was also using the LTTE to wipe out the JVP (People’s Liberation Front) Sinhala insurgency…

“The LTTE reportedly has bought Russian-made Strela anti-aircraft missiles from Belgian arms dealers.”


Rajiv Gandhi, Prime Minister of India, was killed in 1991 by the Sri Lankan Tamil Tigers -Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam

Justice Jain’s final investigated the conspiracy to assassinate Gandhi.

He came across evidence that one suspect known as Chandraswami had links with the CIA and Mossad, and through them with the LTTE.

Justice Jain ‘seems convinced’ that Chandraswami was involved.

According to Asia Times:

Justice Jain ‘has linked Chandraswami with the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) in which arms dealer Adnan Kashoggi, several terrorist groups, and intelligence outfits like the CIA and Mossad had accounts.

‘The money in it was used for terrorist operations and political assassinations. The report is quoted as saying that $4 million of Mr Kashoggi’s money was transferred to the LTTE’s accounts. Justice Jain had said this on the basis of a 130-page document prepared by US Senator John Kiri.

‘The commission quotes evidence of former cabinet secretary Zafar Saiffullah who said Chandraswami had links with Mossad and the CIA, and that the government had received intercepts of wireless communication between Israel (where Mossad is based) and Jaffna (where the LTTE was operating till recently) which established Chandraswami’s involvement…

‘Money transactions in Chandraswami’s name and his links with international arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi and the now defunct Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) have made the commission point an accusing finger…’


Quote from a review by Sachi Sri Kantha of “By Way of Deception; The Making and Unmaking of a Mossad Officer”, the famous book on the inner secrets of the Mossad by Victor Ostrovsky and Claire Hoy:

“Ostrovski’s disclosures on the deals made by the military and political power-brokers of the ruling UNP and the Mossad had been published in excerpts in the Tamil Nation of Oct.15, 1990.

“What shocked the Sinhalese ruling establishment and the journalists (including the editor of Lanka Guardian, Mervyn de Silva) was the revelation of Ostrovski that Mossad had trained the Sinhalese military personnel and ‘a group of Tamil guerrilla factions’ simultaneously….

“Oh, and here’s the good part. Israel trained the Sri Lankan resistance in the mid 1980’s. The very first Tamil Tiger suicide attack was on July 5, 1987.

“Obviously influenced by the success of the Tamil Tigers, and prompted by the Israeli state terrorism against the Palestinian people, the Palestinians started using suicide bombers in the 1990’s.

“Are you thinking what I’m thinking?

“Is it just possible that the technique of suicide bombing – now of course migrated to such places as New York, Iraq, and London – is the ultimate example of ‘blowback’, as it was taught to the Sri Lankans in the mid 1980’s by the Israelis, who ended up on the wrong side of it when the Palestinians picked it up in 1993, and used it particularly from 2000 on.

“Where would the Israelis have learned of its success? From Lebanon in the 1980’s. The technique was first used in Lebanon in December 1981 by the Islamic Dawa Party (the current Prime Minister of Iraq is a member of this party!)…..

“If Israel learned of the tactical success of the technique by studying Hezbollah’s use of it in Lebanon, and passed it on to the Sri Lankans in the mid-1980’s – possibly just to cause enough conflict in Sri Lanka to generate more business training the Sri Lankan army at expensive rates! – it would be very ironic if the Palestinians took it up as the only alternative open to them at a time when the similarly powerless Tamils were using it to great success in Sri Lanka. The example of the Palestinians has led to the technique being used everywhere….”

Swine Flu Psy Op

Swine Flu Psy Op

Mexico City.
The Swine Flu story sounds like a psy-op:

1. Millions die in Mexico each year from diseases such as TB, typhoid and malaria.

But we don’t hear much about that.

Due to high levels of poverty in Mexico, there is a tendency for outbreaks of flu to kill large numbers of people.

“During a typical year in the United States, 30,000 to 50,000 persons die as a result of influenza viral infection.” – Flu Pandemic Morbidity / Mortality

2. In the USA and Canada, flu symptoms have been described as mild.

“Several students experienced flu symptoms after they returned but they were so mild that they didn’t raise any concerns.” (Swine flu hits Canada)

This swine flu’s a “relative lightweight” (Swine flu’s a relative lightweight.)

The first reports of swine infections in Mexico came in mid-March.

The current swine flu strain still has fewer than 1,000 reported cases.

Remember: “During a typical year in the United States, 30,000 to 50,000 persons die as a result of influenza viral infection.” – Flu Pandemic Morbidity / Mortality

So, why is publicity for the flu coming now?

3. The Flu Kills The Torture Memos

And reports of the Lockerbie Bomb case appeal (Lockerbie bomber launches second appeal).

4. And, certain fascist swine are hoping to make lots of money from selling vaccines.

“On March 20, 2009, this researcher outlined a peculiar PANDEMIC VACCINE TRAINING exercise in Texas scheduled to occur on Saturday, May 2, 2009.” (

“There was a Swine Flu outbreak in 1976. President Gerald Ford asked that all Americans be innoculated.

“As it turned out, the disease only killed one person but the vaccine harmed hundreds and may have killed some.” (This article addresses that question.)

5. And maybe the latest swine flu is meant to target certain groups?

Germ warfare `could target ethnic groups’ acording to an article in The Independent

“Viruses … tailored to detect the differences in the DNA of races could offer warmakers … a new means to carry out ‘ethnic cleansing’,” said a panel convened by the British Medical Association (BMA).

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6. Why Mexico?


Samuel P Huntington saw a new threat to the United States: Mexicans.

“In The Hispanic Challenge, Huntington claims that ‘the single most serious challenge to America’s traditional identity comes from the immense and continuing immigration from Latin America, especially from Mexico.'” – The Huntington Challenge: Why The Hispanic Challenge should be …

Huntington and Hispanic immigration: “The extent and nature of this immigration differ fundamentally from those of previous immigration, and the assimilation successes of the past are unlikely to be duplicated with the contemporary flood of immigrants from Latin America.

“This reality poses a fundamental question: Will the United States remain a country with a single national language and a core Anglo-Protestant culture?” – Civilizations (print)

Samuel Phillips Huntington (April 18, 1927–December 24, 2008) was an American political scientist who gained prominence through his Clash of Civilizations (1993, 1996) thesis of a post-Cold War new world order.

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7. Swine Flu and McDonalds

Maybe the swine flu is an accident, associated with factory farming and globalisation.

Maybe the swine flu started at a large pig producing facility in La Gloria in Mexico.

Only ONE case of swine flu was confirmed as having come from La Gloria.

Local and federal health officials are downplaying suggestions that the epidemic started in La Gloria.

(Swine Flu Baffles Experts And Raises More Questions Than Answers)

They insist that the other cases from La Gloria were from a completely different and common strain of flu, H2N3.

Governor of Veracruz, Fidel Herrera, told the press there was not a single indicator that the epidemic started in La Gloria.

Miguel Angel Lezana, the director of the National Centre for Disease Control, said that genetic information in the H1N1 virus show it is more similar to types of flu that affect pigs in Central and East Asia. (Swine flu: Mexico claims it started in Asia)

By 29 April 2009, the world’s media were interviewing the mother of 4-year-old Edgar Hernandez who reportedly got swine flu on 2nd April 2009.

(‘I had a headache and fever’ says boy who survived – Times Online / ‘I feel great,’ says five-year-old Mexican boy living near ‘ground … )

Edgar comes from La Gloria in Veracruz in Mexico, where there is the giant US-owned Smithfield Foods pig production facility.

60% of the 3,000 residents of La Gloria reported getting sick, including three children aged under two, who later died.

Edgar is quoted as saying: ‘I feel great. But I had a headache and a sore throat and a fever for a while. I had to lay down in bed.’

Reportedly, it was confirmed, on 27April 27 2009, that Edgar was the first known sufferer of swine flu.

According to the Times, ‘residents of La Gloria have been complaining since March that the odour from Granjas Carroll’s pig waste was causing severe respiratory infections.’

There have been calls to exhume the bodies of the children who died of pneumonia so that they could be tested.

The Vera Cruz-based newspaper La Marcha blames Smithfield’s Granjos Carroll for the outbreak of sickness.

Mexico’s Health Secretary Jose Angel Cordova told reporters a sample taken from a 4-year-old boy in Mexico’s Veracruz state in early April tested positive for swine flu.

Smithfield spokeswoman Keira Ullrich said the company has found no clinical signs or symptoms of the presence of swine influenza in its swine herd or its employees working at its joint ventures anywhere in Mexico.

The company supplies the McDonald’s and Subway fast-food chains.

Mexican Agriculture Department officials said that its inspectors found no sign of swine flu among pigs around the farm in Veracruz, and that no infected pigs have been found yet anywhere in Mexico. However, Ochoa, the farm manager, said no one from the government has inspected his farm for swine flu.

Smithfields was fined $12.3 million in the United States 1997 for violating the Clean Water Act.

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