MI-5 and the British far right.

MI-5 and the British far right.

Mostaque Ali

Someone asked me naively/defensively/almost accusative to prove the links between MI-5 and far-right groups and agitators. In normal social interactions and conversations “proving” all your assertions is not necessary….its is merely a perspective, an opinion on an issue……whether believed or otherwise. Conversation would be very stale if we had to reference all our points of view.

It is taken as given for those who belong to activist progressive class, and who are sufficiently informed that there are clear linkages between MI-5 and the far right in the UK.

Identifying this linkage is very important in understanding the dynamics of British politics…….and the underlying motivations around such extremist events.

MI-5 and the far-right:

From: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=5060

“As a result of information acquired by the BBC under the Freedom of Information Act MI5 were using undercover agents to spy on the Anti-Apartheid Movement in the 1980s. This information only adds to the evidence that the MI5 has always been under the control of the far right.

This has been true since 1907 when Major Vernon Kell become Director of the Home Section of the Secret Service Bureau with responsibility for investigating espionage, sabotage and subversion within and outside Britain. Later the organisation became known as Military Intelligence (MI5). Kell and his men exclusively targeted left-wing activists.

By 1918 MI5 had files on 137,500 individuals. This included trade unionists, members of the Independent Labour Party and those who had campaigned for peace negotiations during the First World War.

In October 1924 the MI5 intercepted a letter written by Grigory Zinoviev, chairman of the Comintern in the Soviet Union. This investigation eventually became known as the Zinoviev Letter Scandal. Zinoviev’s letter urged British communists to promote revolution through acts of sedition. After consulting Basil Thomson at Special Branch, Kell showed the letter to Ramsay MacDonald, the Labour Prime Minister. Kell told MacDonald that MI5 and the Special Branch were convinced the letter was genuine.

It was agreed that the letter should be kept secret but someone leaked news of the letter to The Times and the Daily Mail. The letter was published in these newspapers four days before the 1924 General Election and contributed to the defeat of Ramsay MacDonald and the Labour Party. After the election it was claimed that two of MI5’s agents, Sidney Reilly and Arthur Maundy Gregory, had forged the letter and had been involved in leaking it to the press.

This did not stop the Labour Party being elected to power five years later. This time MI5 used a different strategy for dealing with the growth in socialism. It is the same strategy they have used ever since. You “turn” the leaders of the labour movement. Ramsay MacDonald was only the first leader turned in this way. Others, like Tony Blair, were recruited early in their political career.

In 1925 Vernon Kell appointed Maxwell Knight as Director of Intelligence of the British Fascists (BF). Knight played a significant role in helping to defeat the General Strike in 1926 and by the early 1930s was placed in charge of B5b, a unit that conducted the monitoring of political subversion.

The vast majority of Knight’s agents were part-time. Knight recruited a large number of his agents from right-wing political organizations such as the Nordic League, British Union of Fascists and the Right Club. This included William Allen and William Joyce who was later to become known as Lord Haw Haw in Nazi Germany.

The KGB used this against MI5 by getting their agents such as Kim Philby and Guy Burgess to join right-wing organizations that were working with Maxwell Knight. They were recruited as neo-fascists when in reality they were devout communists.”

http://members.lycos.co.uk/mere_pseud_mag_ed/History/Hope1.htm

You don’t have to trudge the history books of Brum Central Library (A most excellent library for research and study), to get an understanding of the subject.

You grow up in the UK, and you come across skin heads and their type. If you are reasonably perceptive you grasp who they are and what they are in the scheme of things, as a reasonably informed Asian growing up in Britain. Your awareness of the subject heightens when you inadvertently cross paths with British security. Of course it doesn’t automatically make you an expert on the subject, BUT YOU KNOW,…..then you talk with other people, lecturers, social activists, and fellow students…..you witness their activity at university…beating up Asian students etc(1994/5 UCE)…and you gain more first hand knowledge of the area.

Then you visit the CRE as it was known then in 1998 in Alpha Tower, and go out to dinner with them, and they fill you in on more inside information of what was going on, and paper cuttings of interesting events and so forth. No startling facts, all taken as matter of fact because you are desensitized to such things, and in the scheme of things you have bigger issues to worry about.

Never an area that I really focused on, but any certified activist leftie (of which I am not)should know of the linkages between MI-5 and the British Far right Movement, and if you do not know, then you know nothing about the leftie movement and its multiple challenges in the 21st century. Western politics has fundamentally shifted to the right, and lefties are struggle to “accommodate” this fundamental shift……..and that this fundamental shift is headed by the dynamics and perceived interests of Israeli politics, and the necessary awkwardness the significant number of Jewish lefties feel in realigning themselves with the perspectives of Israel….Does one follow the tribe? Or ones ideology? Difficult stuff for many I imagine.

MI-5_____BNP,NF,Combat 18,EDL

German intelligence__________Neo-fascists, NDP.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Democratic_Party_of_Germany

SISMI__________Forza Nouva http://kirkunity.blogspot.com/2009/08/convicted-italian-fascist-roberto-fiore.html

MIT_____________Grey Wolves http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Wolves

ISI_____________Do you really need references here!!!

RAW_____________Siv Sena/RSS.

VEVAK___________Basij (they carry chains and knives, and attack decent Iranian citizens who dare to protest about any government policies…..like the above they attack ordinary citizens who criticize the government,….except they have beards, some of them…..impressionable village boy youths with not much education, but a lot of ideology, and pent up anger….works closely with the Revolutionary Guard)

By posting these I do not say that this is the norm we live in and we must accept this linkage, as the norm. No why should we…..we must expect better…..but for those who are naive this is the reality of our present situation, and it allows us to look at the situation from a more realistic perspective….the mask at the ball is taken off.

So why the riots now………….the culmination of a natural process? What natural process? The economic meltdown maybe, and people feeling the effects of the recession, or just angry young men venting their feelings against the obvious targets?

As alluded such anti-social events rarely happen by themselves, spontaneously, but must be observed in the context of other forces within the state structure, and motivations of the power elite. This can be observed in the context of the 1970’s, and the activities of the far right then.
(i) Is all this to get the Tories reelected….1974-79 redux, or April 2001 Oldham just before the elections. The Tories are 18 points ahead, so do they really need further “assistance” in such an area, in this manner. Maybe somebody wants to make sure they win the next elections……based on a Sarkozy election strategy. It worked for him.
(ii) Possibly now that the economy is going pear shaped, the net result of that will be a lot of angry people asking questions as to who, how, why what, when…….etc, and the BANKERS in “The City” don’t want to be the obvious answer to all those questions, as to why Britain is in such a mess. The Circus of Brum provides an useful distraction to their failure and greed. The ordinary people of Britain will be less focused in asking why they are having to bail out the bankers.
(iii) The Blood sacrifice of Iraqis and the Afghan Heroin is profitable for “The City” ……….the Opium and Heroin trades association with “The City” goes back 250 years to the East India company, where Opium was harvested in India and exported to China if you remember your history. The British forces are in Afghanistan purely and simply to ensure that the Heroin is properly shipped to the British shores……………………….to import massive amounts of narcotics in a country you require the COOPERATION of port authorities, HM Customs & Excise, the police naturally and the intelligence services, part of whose job is to combat organized crime and narcotics……….once you grasp that the world does not always operate along the standards set by Pollyanna, then you can begin to get a better picture who are the true criminals in British and international society, and what motivates and who motivates actual state policy in such theaters such as Afghanistan, and how they add to their mass criminal deeds, in order to bolster earlier ones.

Article by former ambassador Craig Murray:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-469983/Britain-protecting-biggest-heroin-crop-time.html

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2001/2848dope_money.html
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=5514

http://spoonfeedin.blogspot.com/2008/06/opium-financed-british-rule-in-india.html

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=3294

The war is unpopular. Normal people are peace loving……………..people thrive and naturally develop where there is peace, and society follows the rule of law. That is how civilisation progresses. But for a few criminal elements the inverse of this is true……the rule of law should be ignored, there must be war to act as cover for their illegal operations; People must apprehend fear and cower under their designated security; people must fight 50 year wars for their country, “We fight the “bad” guys over there so that we don’t have to fight them over here”……..but wait some of the “bad guys” are already here, and so we fight them in our shores………and presumably that is the underlying narrative of the recent riots, the “enemy within” must be fought.

Ordinary people and some soldiers are already questioning the real validity of the war, especially in Afghanistan running for 8 years now, propping up a corrupt and ineffective narco-state. So the unpopular war must be bolstered in its support….it requires more canon fodder of poor unquestioning white unemployed working class lads, correctly wound up, to join the ranks of the British army to fight for the Heroin business. Can there be a more noble cause?

MI-5 and the British far right.

Someone asked me naively/defensively/almost accusative to prove the links between MI-5 and far-right groups and agitators. In normal social interactions and conversations “proving” all your assertions is not necessary….its is merely a perspective, an opinion on an issue……whether believed or otherwise. Conversation would be very stale if we had to reference all our points of view.

It is taken as given for those who belong to activist progressive class, and who are sufficiently informed that there are clear linkages between MI-5 and the far right in the UK.

Identifying this linkage is very important in understanding the dynamics of British politics…….and the underlying motivations around such extremist events.

MI-5 and the far-right:

From: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=5060

“As a result of information acquired by the BBC under the Freedom of Information Act MI5 were using undercover agents to spy on the Anti-Apartheid Movement in the 1980s. This information only adds to the evidence that the MI5 has always been under the control of the far right.

This has been true since 1907 when Major Vernon Kell become Director of the Home Section of the Secret Service Bureau with responsibility for investigating espionage, sabotage and subversion within and outside Britain. Later the organisation became known as Military Intelligence (MI5). Kell and his men exclusively targeted left-wing activists.

By 1918 MI5 had files on 137,500 individuals. This included trade unionists, members of the Independent Labour Party and those who had campaigned for peace negotiations during the First World War.

In October 1924 the MI5 intercepted a letter written by Grigory Zinoviev, chairman of the Comintern in the Soviet Union. This investigation eventually became known as the Zinoviev Letter Scandal. Zinoviev’s letter urged British communists to promote revolution through acts of sedition. After consulting Basil Thomson at Special Branch, Kell showed the letter to Ramsay MacDonald, the Labour Prime Minister. Kell told MacDonald that MI5 and the Special Branch were convinced the letter was genuine.

It was agreed that the letter should be kept secret but someone leaked news of the letter to The Times and the Daily Mail. The letter was published in these newspapers four days before the 1924 General Election and contributed to the defeat of Ramsay MacDonald and the Labour Party. After the election it was claimed that two of MI5’s agents, Sidney Reilly and Arthur Maundy Gregory, had forged the letter and had been involved in leaking it to the press.

This did not stop the Labour Party being elected to power five years later. This time MI5 used a different strategy for dealing with the growth in socialism. It is the same strategy they have used ever since. You “turn” the leaders of the labour movement. Ramsay MacDonald was only the first leader turned in this way. Others, like Tony Blair, were recruited early in their political career.

In 1925 Vernon Kell appointed Maxwell Knight as Director of Intelligence of the British Fascists (BF). Knight played a significant role in helping to defeat the General Strike in 1926 and by the early 1930s was placed in charge of B5b, a unit that conducted the monitoring of political subversion.

The vast majority of Knight’s agents were part-time. Knight recruited a large number of his agents from right-wing political organizations such as the Nordic League, British Union of Fascists and the Right Club. This included William Allen and William Joyce who was later to become known as Lord Haw Haw in Nazi Germany.

The KGB used this against MI5 by getting their agents such as Kim Philby and Guy Burgess to join right-wing organizations that were working with Maxwell Knight. They were recruited as neo-fascists when in reality they were devout communists.”

http://members.lycos.co.uk/mere_pseud_mag_ed/History/Hope1.htm

You don’t have to trudge the history books of Brum Central Library (A most excellent library for research and study), to get an understanding of the subject.

You grow up in the UK, and you come across skin heads and their type. If you are reasonably perceptive you grasp who they are and what they are in the scheme of things, as a reasonably informed Asian growing up in Britain. Your awareness of the subject heightens when you inadvertently cross paths with British security. Of course it doesn’t automatically make you an expert on the subject, BUT YOU KNOW,…..then you talk with other people, lecturers, social activists, and fellow students…..you witness their activity at university…beating up Asian students etc(1994/5 UCE)…and you gain more first hand knowledge of the area.

Then you visit the CRE as it was known then in 1998 in Alpha Tower, and go out to dinner with them, and they fill you in on more inside information of what was going on, and paper cuttings of interesting events and so forth. No startling facts, all taken as matter of fact because you are desensitized to such things, and in the scheme of things you have bigger issues to worry about.

Never an area that I really focused on, but any certified activist leftie (of which I am not)should know of the linkages between MI-5 and the British Far right Movement, and if you do not know, then you know nothing about the leftie movement and its multiple challenges in the 21st century. Western politics has fundamentally shifted to the right, and lefties are struggle to “accommodate” this fundamental shift……..and that this fundamental shift is headed by the dynamics and perceived interests of Israeli politics, and the necessary awkwardness the significant number of Jewish lefties feel in realigning themselves with the perspectives of Israel….Does one follow the tribe? Or ones ideology? Difficult stuff for many I imagine.

MI-5_____BNP,NF,Combat 18,EDL

German intelligence__________Neo-fascists, NDP.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Democratic_Party_of_Germany

SISMI__________Forza Nouva http://kirkunity.blogspot.com/2009/08/convicted-italian-fascist-roberto-fiore.html

MIT_____________Grey Wolves http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Wolves

ISI_____________Do you really need references here!!!

RAW_____________Siv Sena/RSS.

VEVAK___________Basij (they carry chains and knives, and attack decent Iranian citizens who dare to protest about any government policies…..like the above they attack ordinary citizens who criticize the government,….except they have beards, some of them…..impressionable village boy youths with not much education, but a lot of ideology, and pent up anger….works closely with the Revolutionary Guard)

By posting these I do not say that this is the norm we live in and we must accept this linkage, as the norm. No why should we…..we must expect better…..but for those who are naive this is the reality of our present situation, and it allows us to look at the situation from a more realistic perspective….the mask at the ball is taken off.

So why the riots now………….the culmination of a natural process? What natural process? The economic meltdown maybe, and people feeling the effects of the recession, or just angry young men venting their feelings against the obvious targets?

As alluded such anti-social events rarely happen by themselves, spontaneously, but must be observed in the context of other forces within the state structure, and motivations of the power elite. This can be observed in the context of the 1970’s, and the activities of the far right then.
(i) Is all this to get the Tories reelected….1974-79 redux, or April 2001 Oldham just before the elections. The Tories are 18 points ahead, so do they really need further “assistance” in such an area, in this manner. Maybe somebody wants to make sure they win the next elections……based on a Sarkozy election strategy. It worked for him.
(ii) Possibly now that the economy is going pear shaped, the net result of that will be a lot of angry people asking questions as to who, how, why what, when…….etc, and the BANKERS in “The City” don’t want to be the obvious answer to all those questions, as to why Britain is in such a mess. The Circus of Brum provides an useful distraction to their failure and greed. The ordinary people of Britain will be less focused in asking why they are having to bail out the bankers.
(iii) The Blood sacrifice of Iraqis and the Afghan Heroin is profitable for “The City” ……….the Opium and Heroin trades association with “The City” goes back 250 years to the East India company, where Opium was harvested in India and exported to China if you remember your history. The British forces are in Afghanistan purely and simply to ensure that the Heroin is properly shipped to the British shores……………………….to import massive amounts of narcotics in a country you require the COOPERATION of port authorities, HM Customs & Excise, the police naturally and the intelligence services, part of whose job is to combat organized crime and narcotics……….once you grasp that the world does not always operate along the standards set by Pollyanna, then you can begin to get a better picture who are the true criminals in British and international society, and what motivates and who motivates actual state policy in such theaters such as Afghanistan, and how they add to their mass criminal deeds, in order to bolster earlier ones.

Article by former ambassador Craig Murray:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-469983/Britain-protecting-biggest-heroin-crop-time.html

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2001/2848dope_money.html
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=5514

http://spoonfeedin.blogspot.com/2008/06/opium-financed-british-rule-in-india.html

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=3294

The war is unpopular. Normal people are peace loving……………..people thrive and naturally develop where there is peace, and society follows the rule of law. That is how civilisation progresses. But for a few criminal elements the inverse of this is true……the rule of law should be ignored, there must be war to act as cover for their illegal operations; People must apprehend fear and cower under their designated security; people must fight 50 year wars for their country, “We fight the “bad” guys over there so that we don’t have to fight them over here”……..but wait some of the “bad guys” are already here, and so we fight them in our shores………and presumably that is the underlying narrative of the recent riots, the “enemy within” must be fought.

Ordinary people and some soldiers are already questioning the real validity of the war, especially in Afghanistan running for 8 years now, propping up a corrupt and ineffective narco-state. So the unpopular war must be bolstered in its support….it requires more canon fodder of poor unquestioning white unemployed working class lads, correctly wound up, to join the ranks of the British army to fight for the Heroin business. Can there be a more noble cause?

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